[RITSlist] Golden state

[jpslhedgpeth at aol.com]

Engine crews changed at Eldon :(Iowa) and Trenton...Train crews may have run through from Rock Island to TRenton or KC.



Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gill <richardrgill1 at sbcglobal.net>
To: David Koziol <KOZIOLDS2 at msn.com>; ritslist <ritslist at simpson.edu>
Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 8:36 am
Subject: Re: [RITSlist] Golden state



David -

The July 1956 Official Guide shows conditional stops at Centerville.? At that time, 3 & 4 made only conditional stops between Rock Island and Kansas City. Conditional stops were at Davenport, Muscatine, Columbus Jct., Eldon, Centerville, and Trenton. The conditional stops at? Centerville were to receive/discharge passengers to/from El Paso and beyond.

The Rock Island seems to have had a fetish about conditional stops - the timetable was loaded with them, and they used every conceivable symbol to denote them. Further, in the public timetables, a conditional stop was shown only with the symbol; no time was shown (now, THAT was useful).? Somewhere, there must've been a secret codebook or cheat sheet for ticket agents. Some trains made conditional stops at certain stations on designated days of the week, and? regular stops on other days.? And to think they probably paid people to conjure up all this stuff.? Gotta love The Rock!

Well, anyway, No. 3 left Rock Island (181 miles from Chicago) at 4:25 PM and arrived Kansas City (495 miles) at 10:10 PM. With Centerville at 326 miles, No. 3 probably would've been there around 7:00 PM.? No. 4 left Kansas City at 1:25 AM, arriving Rock Island at 7:35 AM.? Centerville would've been around 4:30 AM.

Does anyone know - was there a crew change point between Rock Island and Kansas City?

Dick Gill

David Koziol <KOZIOLDS2 at msn.com> wrote:



Before getting in an argument on another railroads list can somebody help 
me? I can't get to my Rock Island timetables right now to check. Was 
Centerville, Iowa a scheduled stop or a flag stop for the Golden State? If 
it was a scheduled stop, what were the arrival and departure times and what 
year is this information from? Thanks
David Koziol 



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