[RITSlist] RI FP7 colors

[DAVID SCHMIDT]

Phil,
I've painted several of my locos with Scalecoat II Caboose red (NOT the "Bright" caboose red) and Keith Thompson told me it looked awfully close when we compared it to photos out of several of the Rock Island Color Pictorial books. This is more of a Tuscan color than a true red and doesn't have the purplish hue the Erie Lackawanna maroon has. However it is not nearly as brown as the old Floquil Rock Island maroon or your typical Tuscan red. Add a little weathering and it is really hard to tell any difference from extant photos. Also, one has to bear in mind that we often are viewing the full scale locos in bright daylight and our models in fluorescent lighting. As a photographer you undoubtedly remember needing to use a different type of film or filter to compensate for fluorescent lighting. This will also affect the visual perception of the colors on our models.
The "safety yellow" you referred to is more commonly called "chrome yellow" and is the same color used by Charlie Piper on the ubiquitous J-3 Cub and also used by highway departments everywhere for center striping.
At any rate, if one paints all the locos on their layout with the same paint, no one else will be able to tell any difference. The only time it MIGHT become an issue of any import would be at a contest where several models are being compared side by side.
Regards,
David Schmidt
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Philip Weibler 
  To: RITSlist ; leeimrc at yahoo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [RITSlist] RI FP7 colors


  All -
  I have a 'color chip' for Rock Island dark red dated January 1963 - actually, I held a piece of cardstock and had the carman/painter shoot it while he was doing a Geep in Silvis Shops.  Had a red thumbnail for a week.  Always found Testors #4 to be a close match to this color chip, but Ross says it doesn't 'scale' down for HO models in the basement.
  Also have the Federal Spec # for the yellow used for the nose wings (Yellow, Federal Standard 595, color ship 13538)  Just wondering out loud because I haven't checked but do spray cans of "Safety Yellow" paint from Ace Hardware (or wherever) carry the Fed Spec number?
  The reason for calling the standard Rock Island color of the '60s and '70s "dark red" instead of "maroon" is because the long dictionary definition of "maroon" indicates a purplish or brownish hue.
  The Rock Island never had purple locomotives (or cabooses).
  The Rock Island never had brown locomotives (not sure about the 743).
  We could call it "wine red" but that would start a squabble about merlot or burgandy or chianti........PAW

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